User talk:ChrisBauer

I feel there is a contradiction between the first and the second paragraph of the article: 1. „Crews are not the same as teams as the interactions between crew members are pre-defined …“ 2. „The interaction between the roles that compose a team are pre-defined …“

In general, if you look at a sports team, you could very well argue that the interactions are also pre-defined.

Since I am not a native speaker of English, I am still missing a clear differentiation between team and crew. Moreover I am missing the REASON, why we should differentiate between them. I recently read „Team of Teams“ by S. McChrystal and I do not remember a single mention of the term „crew“ … that’s probably self-evident but still …

I have the impression, that a crew is always assigned to some kind or form of vessel (again, I am not a native speaker), maybe that could be an idea to follow.

In one of the Zoom sessions, we discussed briefly the aspect of redundancy as a differentiating factor. I was surprised to learn that crews have a higher degree of redundancy of roles (the example given was the airplane crew, consisting of pilot, co-pilot and sometimes third pilot). I would have assumed exactly the opposite (teams having more redundancy built in than crews) but anyway, this could be a point we should be considering.

I would argue, however, that we are defining a very specific usage of the term „crew“ in the narrow context of engaging in complex-adaptive systems (anthro-complexity). Maybe this type of group is only associated with „interventions“ especially in the chaotic domain - with the focused task of stabilizing a situation. I would also opt for defining a crew as a group with no backup (other than a football team for example) with crystal clear defined roles which have minimum overlap and minimized redundancy. Even if we are considering a plane crew, the built in „redundancy“ is only for security reasons since no backup can be brought in during flight. This is very different from teams which may deliberately switch personnel to adapt to changing circumstances (as in an unfolding match).

Chris as these notes to yourself or did you intend to put these on the crews discussion page which is here https://cynefin.io/wiki/Talk:Crews. There is also a temp page which is intended to take over from the slack discussion here -> https://cynefin.io/wiki/Temp:_Crews