Talk:Triopticon

Are ravens from one of the 3 disciplines?
Does raven 1 have to be from the same discipline as eagle 1? I think not, but would make that clearer.
Are the beaver groups based on disciplines? That is, they are all of one discipline?
Why are ravens phds or junior staff? It is because they will come to it with fresh eyes rather than more experienced experts who are stuck in their ways?
--L.Doyle (talk) 12:18, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

~~should there be additional guidance provided on group size and the separate roles - number guidance now addresses this --Gregb^talk 15:32, 12 March 2021 (UTC)~~

Description & conflict

Is the primary purpose of Triopticon to ritualise conflict? That seems too narrow a description. It can also be used to ritually explore different perspectives; it is a new way of learning e.g an alternative to a fishbowl etc. Making it all about ritualising conflict seems to narrow. Unsigned comment by User:Sblignaut

The purpose is expressed in the bullet points that follow in the next lines (not sure the list is ehaustive, however). If I get your point, maybe we can improve clarity by changing the first line into something like: "The Triopticon is a complex facilitation method that ritualizes the process of conflict for the following purposes:"? -----Luca Orlassino^T-A-L-K 10:37, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes I think that is better. Unsigned comment by User:Sblignaut

Also, under the description for Eagles and their role, it says conflict is a variation, which is incoherent with the description of it being about ritualising conflict. Unsigned comment by User:Sblignaut

Just had a tinker with the description - a couple of thoughts:

- I hereby formally dispute that experts should ever be undisputed :0)

- 25 and 35 do not divide by 3 Davina (talk) 14:34, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Numbers - words or figures? - is there an etiquette? Davina (talk) 14:33, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Owls v Magpies

I thought magpies would replace owls, not become a new role? Did I misunderstand? Unsigned comment by User:Sblignaut

They became a new role in the working sessions-----Snowded ^TALK 11:58, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Wondering if the proliferation of roles is useful ... do we need Owls & Magpies? --Sblignaut (talk) 06:51, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Not every triopticon requires all roles and they could be combined in smaller groups -----Snowded ^TALK 07:59, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Timing

Is there sample a timetable I could get hold of from a previous event that I could make into a graphic, to illustrate timing of let's say a 4 day conference? ColinPinks ^TALK 13:10, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Add some guidance on the mappings - is this open or 3-points preferred? --Gregb^talk 15:47, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Mcheveldave has them -----Snowded ^TALK 14:09, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Here is the schedule for the 2019 Cynefin Retreat in Whistler, BC, Canada. The Acts 1-5 map to Sessions 1-4 on the main retreat days. Mcheveldave (talk) 16:17, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

image resized so the page is readable --Gregb^talk 16:25, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

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Visualisation

@ColinPinks might it be helpful to split the Triopticon into 3 acts (Act I: Ravens, Act II: Beavers and Act III Working Groups) and then subdivide into scenes within each? Davina (talk) 14:37, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Artefacts

I felt it might be helpful to begin a list of artefacts that might be helpful as a facilitation kit here... NB idea not wholly mine, but a bucket in which to pop thoughts seemed reasonable:

facilitation guide (to include appendices of all other related paperwork)
an introduction for participants (what to expect and some explanation of why and "rules of the game")
set of role cards, images/icons and overviews of the role, responsibilities and raison d'être
large (poster sized?) visual organiser, showing the process, activities and anticipated outcomes etc Davina (talk) 15:28, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

a t-shirt saying "I escaped from a Triopticon" :0) (yes, I know there shouldn't be an incentive) Davina (talk)

Roles

Are the animals set in stone?

I was thinking rather than Ravens, if the initial element used bats (tenuous link with listening and navigation) then they would gather in cauldrons (which I am rather keen on as a collective term and which also conjures up a notion of mixing diverse elements)... it would also provide an opportunity for all participant roles to begin with B, enabling easy coding for session plans etc... I was thinking Bats to Beavers to Bees (the final element being the work/productive end of the Triopticon) Davina (talk) 19:24, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Nothing is set in stone so maybe create a table for alternative names -----Snowded ^TALK 08:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Facilitating from back of the room

Convener Role - I haven't got to what the animal equivalent might be. However, given that this is 'facilitating from the back of the room' perhaps it doesn't need one? It's not on show. It's about all of the preparatory work that enables participants to understand the value of the Triopticon (and the convener to vise versa be clear that Triopticon could meet the needs of the participants). There are also a suite of activities that are about supporting the tone of the event, and being around if things go "wrong". --Esmeewsocial (talk) 16:21, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Our general experience has been that 'Facilitating from the back of the room' is problematic in complex facilitation (and we did try). it might be an idea to add some options into the preparation section or create a separate article say [[Triopticon participant briefing document]] -----Snowded ^TALK 08:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Lede far too long

I think we may need other pages such as Tripticon relationship to Open Space and a lot of the material in the intro really needs to be summarised with more detail in the sections or new subjections to held readability? So purposes for example might be better as a sub-section of the lede but the details of who is involved should not be there as it is covered later. -----Snowded ^TALK 08:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

ok - gulp - I will try and do an edit to move/cut material around early next week, if no-one else gets there first.  Working on the lead-in to start. --Esmeewsocial (talk) 09:02, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Sensemaker possibility (post Act 1 and prior to Act 2)

Having watched the recent Triopticon video (Evolution Masterclass discussion) which gathers reflections from folk involved in previous iterations in different ways and pondering the transition from Act 1 (analysis of Eagle input) and hearing the concern that some ideas (particularly outliers) might be lost in the current process, might there be a place for Owls and Magpies (and/or folk specifically dedicated to the task) to produce in a small Sensemaker piece to gather information on participants thoughts prior to Act 2? ...

This may be considered to involve too much time/ be too cumbersome effort-wise (could a purpose designed shell be produced which to be reasonably easily populated for a small collection?) but I wonder whether this might bear fruit we do not predict and, at the very least, a gathering of thoughts involving triads based on Eagle differences and narratives which inform further endeavour during the Triopticon that could help focus minds and guide progress prior to further convergence (inputters could be categorised in different ways, including role)... It would also provide a valuable artefact for future reference that could not be replicated at any other point… another form of sponge to absorb and be squeezed in different ways…

... thinking further, an obvious point which is perhaps worth pointing out, it could be used to produce at least initial hexes and, when time is a factor and/or delivery is asynchronous, it might develop to substitute / at least become a major part of Act 2... at this point I very definitely defer to folk more au fait with its possibilities and the aims and objectives of Act 2...

- - STOP PRESS *** Additionally, within conflict resolution settings for example, use of Sensemaker could provide an avenue through which tricky to air thoughts could be shared anonymously.

CrowdSourcing Sprint - interview guide / questions...

Areas we want to build on in the wiki, by drawing on additional panels with past participants (particularly those with an awareness of process & theory, practitioners & facilitators)...

A short history and the evolution… construct a timeline of the 'past examples'
Why and underlying theory of the Triopticon - Emma
Distinction between types of purpose upfront (link between why and theory and process guidance below) - --Esmeewsocial (talk) 19:19, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
The spine/core: intention and aims for each stage
- key question the stage addresses?
- key convenor principles / role directives for the stage
- We are looking for: Intention (clarity of intent, principles), Purpose (help people guide themselves) and Empowerment (of convenor and participants)

Interview (panel?) past Tritopticon facilitators, co-facilitators, etc. Anna, Dave, Ian, Sonja, Sue, Emma.

WORKING QUESTION LIST (Note - these are NOT an interview sheet but they do represent some of the basic, factual qs, and intended deeper Qs we want to ask. These should be the start of a dynamic conversation, not a literal checklist to work through)

Context and purpose - what was the purpose and intent of the Tritopticon?
Real world or virtual - and if real-world, in what setting?
How many participants (approx is fine)? How were participants selected?
What was done? Any specific process additions or changes?
What was your experience of the transitions between Acts/stages? --Esmeewsocial (talk) 08:56, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Any special Roles included (beyond Ravens, Eagles and Beavers)?
What role did you play? What was your experience in that role?
How would you frame participation in that role to future participants, to support them?
What observations did you make about other roles and dynamics?
What was learned from the Triopticon - good and bad?
What were the (intended and experienced) outcomes / outputs from the sessions?
What was a highlight of the process for you?

(I feel like this list is too long and clunky - might we want to split out the essentials (where, what and who) vs the deeper process reflections?) Dglanvill (talk) 10:53, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Long list is good, I have added a question about the transitions from slack discussion. And yes - start with the concrete (where, what, who) and then probe further around the three of (?) own expereinces (own role), observations of others (other roles), and the context (environment, purpose).--Esmeewsocial (talk) 08:56, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

List of Past Triopticons (for indexing examples from interviews/panels)

Initiated by Dglanvill (talk) 09:50, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

A list of previous Triopticon events, with the topics they explored (and maybe even what they produced).

For example, a sample entry might be:

Semiotics
Oct 2020 - Cynefin Centre Retreat (online)
3 experts/Eagles were:
Approx 30 attendees
Output unknown
Run by Cynefin Centre

Beginning list of Events: maybe turn this into a table?

Whistler x 2
Virtual Retreat

Timings for Facilitators

Prologue

Bring everyone together for introductions to the proceedings and setting the scene. This does not include breaks.

Full length timing: 1 hr 15 mins Short timing: 30 mins

Act One

Act one, Scene One

The 3 Eagles sit in a circle with the Raven Groups surrounding them and one of the Eagles presents their perspective on the subject and the other 2 Eagles act as respondents. Eagle❶ speaks at a greater length than Eagle❷ and Eagle❸. For example in the full length version, it could be 40 minutes for Eagle❶ and 10 minutes each for Eagle❷ and Eagle❸. In the shorter version, it could be 20 minutes for Eagle❶ and 5 minutes each for Eagle❷ and Eagle❸. Then the Eagle Facilitator manages some interaction with and between the Eagles to complete the session. The Ravens are silent, listening, and taking notes.

Full length timing: 90 mins. Short timing: 40 mins.

Act one, Scene Two

The Raven groups move out of the main space and are given time to discuss what they have heard, record learning, ideas, and questions on physical or virtual forms. They nominate themselves to be Raven❶, Raven❷ & Raven❸. During this time the Eagles and the Eagle facilitator act as a Raven Group but will have no rights or presentation in scene three.

Full length timing: 40 mins. Short timing: 20 mins.

Act one, Scene Three

All the Raven❶ people from each group sit in a circle with the rest of the Ravens behind them (generally wedge formations work) and with the Eagles on one side. They discuss what they learned, their own ideas and thoughts, and all other participants listen in silence.

Full length timing: 40 mins. Short timing: 20 mins.

Act one, Scene Four

There is a general discussion and question session between Ravens and participants before a break.

Full length timing: 40 mins. Short timing: 15 mins.

Break

Full length timing: 20 mins. Short timing: 5 mins.

Total full length timing of Act 1: 2 hours 50 mins. Total short timing of Act 1: 1 hour, 40 mins.

Act Two

Repeats Act one in four scenes but this time Eagle❷ presents, Eagle❶ and Eagle❸ respond and then, when we reach scene three we have a circle comprised of all the Raven❷. Timing is the same as Act 1.

Act Three

Repeats again but now it is Eagle❸ who presents with Eagles❶ and Eagle❷ responding and Raven❸ forming the group in scene three. Timing is the same as Act 1.

Act Four

The Raven groups are split into the 3 Beaver groups and they share knowledge and experience while all three Eagles rotate around the group. They focus on generating concepts to explore, methods to develop, and such like. Full length timing: 1 hour. Short timing: 30 mins.

Act Five

All of the output from the Beaver Groups is captured and clustered by the group as a whole and (optional) mapped onto the five domains of the Cynefin® framework. Individuals or groups then take on each cluster and take it through to completion. Full length timing: 1 hour 30 mins. Short timing: 45 mins.

Epilogue

There are post-event commitments (where/what next) and a closing ritual. Full length timing: 1 hr 15 mins. Short timing: 20 mins.

Total Timing

Full length timing: 14.5 hours. Short timing: 6.75 minutes.