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Philippe Guenet 11:50 AM There are a lot of what was discussed in Crews seem to have some good material in ORSC (Organisation and System Relationship Coaching). The 5 RSI (Relationship System Intelligence) principles would be interesting:

Each relationship system has its own unique identity or ‘personality’.
Hearing, seeing and feeling the Team: every member of the relationship system is a Voice of the System.
The Team has the answers: Relationships systems are naturally intelligent, generative and creative.
Roles belong to the Team: Relationships systems rely on roles for their organization and execution of functions.
Change is constant: Relationships systems are in a constant state of emergence.

Philippe Guenet 11:58 AM

There are some Coaching exercises in ORSC that would be relevant to the early part of the conversation around roles:
Formal constellation is a way of organising the system with their role and the system playing its role with gestures
Deep democracy is also an interesting tool where people take Voices / Roles in the system and talk from those positions. Conversation emerges from it and it allows to visit perspectives. It can be formal by agreeing the range of roles to bring in. Sometimes it is also interesting how other role start emerging with the idea of “ghosts”, ie. roles or people no longer in the system that still have an influence on the system (eg. I am pretty sure that Steve Jobs is still in people’s minds at Apple).
ORSC also looks at roles in the form of Outer Roles (ie. executive roles given by the organisation) and inner roles (roles needed by the system). It is always interesting to explore the roles needed for the system to function and finding creative roles for this - eg. I worked with one team and the role of “Mum” emerged in the discussion that the main stakeholder was effectively playing. As she was moving on, it was an interesting conversation to figure how does the team work without a “Mum”. There is also a deeper exploration into roles with secret selves / triggered roles / ghosts and time spirits.

Philippe Guenet 5:36 PM

Visual of the 5 RSI principles

Odd Arne Nissestad 11:05 AM I find this topic interesting and partly difficult - I believe that crews are extremely important where you can apply them - I think some of the things Dave said concerning training and preparation for the role is key. In the military I trained my crew, either it was in operational room or on the artillery. What is interesting is that when you move around in that world - I could move into any operational room in Nato and I would easily fit in. In the business world this is a bit different, and much more unclear - this is also made worse due to a heavy use of matrix organizations - so very often is there a fundamental lack of role understanding - role acceptance, and role orientation. I believe that here there us a huge potential for improvement; and methods for this important. I have been working a lot with team and team development - done research on it as well. When I was at the Naval Academy we used the team as a development arena when it came to leadership development. We measured the team dynamics and tried to develop the team through working on the interaction between them - once we succeeded - but that was no du to design but as a result of emergence of new interactions patterns among the cadets despite the facilitators. This was on a Bark in the middle of the Atlantic - and since then I always said you can't design for leadership and team development, any attempt to do so if most likely fail. I think the metaphor of scaffolding is key to understanding these things. So, what I tend to think I can't change a person but I can tell another one what kind of effect that behavior got on me - by doing so I making the interactions between us key. So, what we are trying to do is to develop a repertoire through interaction to crate adaptability - here context is key.

Odd Arne Nissestad 11:14 AM Maybe Dave will jump on me now - but a close friend of mine and a Professor who have been working with teams for decades going back to the work Bales started with at Harvard which was later followed up in Norway when the SYMLOG was established (SYMLOG basically killed off much of that research) says that Belbin is to team as MBTI is to personality. In my dissertation I connected team-, team development and team measurement to John Boyds's work on interactions and isolation which what Strategy is all about and some of Sun Tzu form and formlessness together - but that was linked to 4th generation warfare.

Pierre Andipatin 1:17 PM @Philippe Guenet @Corina Lupu some very useful questions and considerations around roles and relationships. I actually see the logic behind role definition as crucial as it ties back to the fundamental purpose for which we rapidly create crews. So the focus is more on the common purpose, which could be a point of cohesion/an "attractor" perhaps. My sense is that with crew formation we are working very deliberately to formalise the rapid creation of crews. This may be a little different to using relationships as the precursor of sorts. The roles are important though as they create some constraints for how the crews function and what individuals bring. i.e. diversity and other attributes. Keeping in mind too that tension can be positive in crews if the right constraints are in place to manage that. Where does the connection come from? the common purpose of the crew. (I may have totally missed your points in which case I apologise in advance and look forward to your correction!) As mentioned above, I see some related questions your dialogue poses around how we work with "attractors" too - this is important in my view as it brings both an element of emergence/perhaps be used deliberately to stimulate informal networks (emergent networks) or used deliberately in crew formation. (edited)

Philippe Guenet 2:46 PM You can recognise that some key roles and what they represent need to exist in teams. For instance in a digital tech / Agile delivery team you would think about a Product Owner / Scrum Master / Engineering & Architecture. In my view the challenge is to then formalise in detail what those roles are about. In fact in a recent org design I worked on we purposefully left some of this open, because we wanted to leave the teams defining the details for themselves and focus on their relationship towards outcomes. We also wanted to learn as we changed the context from hierarchical to value-stream. Some of it worked, some of it was challenged because the team did not put as much intentionality around their relationships (and COVID did not help). In crews, like in emergency services, I believe it is the same: The crew tends to be crystal clear about their objective (eg saving a life at sea) They have roles, but first and foremost they have implicit alignment to the good outcome (in business the alignment needs to be more explicit and intentional) The roles exist at a crew level. People step into those roles. Sometimes, they are the specialist of the role (eg. pilot / captain of the boat, navigator), but if a person is not there, other people will step into the role. Aiming for resilience, you may look into natural abilities and developing competencies into the people so in different cases of personal issues, the crew remains resilient. The context / outcomes can vary what you need. Eg. A creative team does not need as much completing finishing. (see PST from Simon Wardley) The explicit roles tend to be normalised to provide consistency. There is a deeper layer into roles and no 2 teams are the same as it digs more into the natural ability. Teams find their balance at the level. eg. Motivator, peacemaker, etc. (those are closer to the Belbin roles). Sometimes teams miss something at this deeper level as well. It is good to have conversation about what’s in the team / what’s needed for the outcomes / how they can make up the in-balance. 2:51 In ORSC we also talk about the 3rd entity and refer to the “System” (or the Crew in Cynefin language) as a human being. There are multiple exercises based on the 3rd entity. The 3rd entity is the bound between the people - it is the identity of the Team/Crew. People define the 3rd entity (from their relationship) and the entity defines them too (by ways of roles they fill). It feels to me that those considerations are useful to Crews but I am wondering if this is going a step too far within Cynefin or if we should indeed explore further.

Odd Arne Nissestad 3:50 PM The advantage with crews if you look at them since they go through extended training and development together (e.g. like in the military) they develop this implicit guidance and control, hence they can just look at each other an know what to do. That you can only develop by sharing the same kind of experience due to training and working together in a similar environment and context. The problem in the Vietnam war was basically last man in was first man out (normally in a body bag). The fragging was also extremely high since the soldiers rotated after 12 months, the officers served only 6 months. So that training part together is extremely important. We train OiM (offshore installation mangers) when it comes to readiness etc. They have to pass that training to get that position, and normally they just get one shoot at it. Everybody knows that an OiM has gone through that training when he or she get their position on the platform. However, the real test is when the first real serious incident happen - then everybody is watching the OiM as hawk to see how he or she behaves - that's the most important point, because that's referencing. How he or she behaves then have major impact on things will turn out for that OiM as a crisis manager. This is the exact same thing that happens when a child is sitting on the floor and and mouse run across the floor. The child will first look at, in this case the mother, and se how she reacts, if she reacts calmly - then you the child will most likely behave the same way next time a mouse run across the floor, if the mother panic, you will get another reaction from the child. So, consciousness concerning roles are extremely important, and role and identity together with role expectations is extremely important. My experience working in business since march 2007 is that the awareness around these things is too low.

Role and identity: I would say yes - the problem will occur when there's a mismatch between identity and role. That could sometimes be difficult, so you need to have that role awareness and be able to do that change through rituals, here I consider what Dave says about cognitive load and re-orientation and ability to adjust to the requirements of the role and the what the context requires to be extremely important. An example: I measuring people motivation when it comes to willingness to influence (power) - a leadership role might require that you do that even though you might not be motivated to do that, then you need to develop that skill set as a part of the role. Some people want to influence all the time, then they are being perceived as dominating, to pushy etc - then they must be able to learn that sometimes the leadership requires to listen without influencing all the time. And if you want two individuals with very different motivation on this value to cooperate it requires tolerance and mutual respect - and I think that might be easier to achieve if you think roles instead of me as a person. By the way this tool was one of Jürgen Klopp's secrets when he was the manger in Mainz and Dortmund. Also one important tool and approach to Germany's victory winning the world championship in handball in 2007 (I think). The picked both the ones who should take the penalties (missed only one) and the one being the captain of the team by measuring what motivated the players - and match that to the different roles.

Greg Brougham 7:16 PM Odd, I think that okay for role in a generic sense but in a crew the role is defined and the person is assuming the given role. This is why I would raw a distinction between roles you play on a team and within a crew. For the former you have some flexibility about how you undertake the role and there is a certain element of making it your own

Odd Arne Nissestad 7:58 PM Let put it another way - you as the role taker need to have some dispositional states that match the role, hence there is a match between you and what the role requires as being part of the crew. That' so fascinating with sports, who they are really become visible because it is so important for them, or as Professor Hogan says at Hogan Assessment Center "who you are (nature and nurture) determines how you lead" I did a motivation profiling of previous navy seals at the Academy - there was one extreme profile there, his main motivational drivers didn't fit into the academy's approach to leadership development. So, I remember one of the fist thing I said to him - "I bet my money on that you have had a miserable time here, especially the 12 weeks where you on the bark from Norway - USA and back". His first reply - how the heck I knew that - his profile gave the answer. However, he had a perfect profile of being part of the navy seal crew as a sharp shooter. The problem or the challenge is that he lacked adaptability to take om different roles since they required something else, like being CO of the bark, but If I needed a sharp shooter I would pick him any day any time. I guess there is a reason why IDF uses people with some minor "issues" to detect radar signals...they see things that I would't see 7:59 By the way being captain of a handball team requires that you set up the play, so that's a role used 3 out of 6 players can take

Greg Brougham 8:47 AM I can see where you are coming from and agree not everyone will fit into a role. I tend find there is a bit of normalisation that goes on but the role itself is predefined by the relevant regulations or by the existing crew. If you don’t observer/honour the existing role definitions then you will not fit 8:47 As an side have to looked at how the all blacks manage their team structure and roles

Odd Arne Nissestad 9:26 AM Agree on that - but what if crew - the roles are not interacting with the real ongoing world, then they will not adapt, get isolated and fail. Thera's been a lot of breakdown in crews due this - but as always (it seems) in hindsight (as always) they had the information - my point is that a crew and a role can become to rigid in its approach. There's too many siccors or something like that sewed in into people - the check list should help (Atul Gawande).

Greg Brougham 9:33 AM There does need to be the ability for roles to evolve - a simple example being the use of gps for navigation and the impact it has had on sailing and racing but the function of the crew had largely remained the same in this context. That is not to say that function of the crew may be achieved another way, for example automation

Luca 8:12 PM Samba schools are an interesting topic in many respects. The following article by Alfredo Behrens (I can make the connection, if needed) contains some interesting hints. Though not written with a complexity paradigm in mind, and slightly off-topic, I believe it's worth a read. Make sure you wear Snowdonian lenses. [Behrens, A., Singh, P. and Bhandarker, A. (2018), View from Practice: Managing Effectively in Collectivist Societies: Lessons from Samba Schools and Dabbawalas. Thunderbird International Business Review, 60: 137-145. https://doi.org/10.1002/tie.21836] PDF ManagementLessonsfromSambaSchoolsandDabbawalas1.pdf 573 kB PDF573 kB — Click to view

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Philippe Guenet 9:31 AM I have been thinking this weekend and I am looking to write under Crews a couple of sections on: Relationships and roles Explicit and implicit roles We can discuss and comment there on. I need to figure the right terms.

Greg Brougham 10:05 AM I think we need to restructure the page and separate out the type of crews to provide the space for this

Philippe Guenet 10:08 AM Agreed. We probably need to merge the notes at the top within the structure below as well. I can look into this tomorrow.

Greg Brougham 10:09 AM May have time to look at this later today

Pierre Andipatin 4:07 PM Hi all - I have added a couple of links to the wiki by Ginnett, R.C. can be found here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/book/9780123749468/crew-resource-management https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780123749468100032 specifically and https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a187977.pdf I'm reviewing the book chapter which I have access for. sciencedirect.comsciencedirect.com Crews as Groups: Their Formation and their Leadership The objective of this chapter is to change the focus of crewmembers from solely a perspective of competent individuals coming together to do work to a…

Richard S 11:07 AM I've reviewed the entry in the wiki on crews. I don't have edit access to the wik so I've copied text into a google doc and commented there. I think there's a key theme about crews that has not been captured so far. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PQaPv6bESf5N0U5ac6f-1qCDnheB4WeAI86Faor52Ro/edit?usp=sharing

Cynefin Dynamics

Philippe Guenet 7:16 AM https://www.cognitive-edge.com/cynefin-st-davids-day-2019-4-of-5/

Donna Glanvill 7:19 AM http://vdc.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Sense-making-in-a-complex-and-complicated-world.pdf Pinned by Mario López de Ávila Muñoz

alistair.macdonald 11:37 AM Hello all, here is a recording of todays session : https://cognitive-edge.wistia.com/medias/l04m2jsh38 Wistia, Inc. The Cynefin Wiki - Cynefin dynamics 1 GALLERY VIEW

Mike Haber 5:00 PM Is there a link to the session happening now?

Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 5:01 PM Dave is running late, as still talking in 1600 session

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Mike Haber 5:02 PM @Greg Spencer @Colin Pinks thanks!

alistair.macdonald 10:15 PM hello all: here is the second session recording: https://cognitive-edge.wistia.com/medias/76a8ekb0ez Wistia, Inc. The Cynefin Wiki - Cynefin dynamics 2 GALLERY VIEW

Greg Brougham 11:05 AM There is a page on the wiki here, linked under concepts for now - https://cynefin.io/index.php/Cynefin_Dynamics

Philippe Guenet 12:25 AM I have done quite a few updates to the Dynamics Page added an introduction developed each dynamic from what was there + my notes + Dave’s blog post Added a table for the inflection points (need to complete the content) Added a link to Dave’s blog. Please feel free to improve

Philippe Guenet 12:27 AM I am intending to document more the decision points next and also add a note and link to Wardley Maps as maps are also about movement dynamics. Cynefin is more about situations and maps are more about “things” - I need to find the right words for this.

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Philippe Guenet 12:28 AM I will also work on the Wardley Maps page.

Iain_P 7:17 AM Hi, it's great that you are the Pioneer, someone always had to break the ground and this makes it easy for others to comment. Writing is hard, editing is easy (easier) For what it's worth, have added comments below.. Am (or can be) a detailed person, so some of these may risk me being a pedant. But are in the spirit of starting a conversation and my intent is just to help and improve. Feel free to ignore comments, I've no issues with comments being ignored. :) Although some people tend to take a static view of the Cynefin domains, [1. I agree with you this needs to be addressed, but doesn't feel like a 'positive' start to the page?]

Cynefin always intended to look at the dynamics of situations. [2. Haven't listened to the video, would have to research this to establish intent of Dave from the start]

Making sense of a situation will always have a degree of fluidity as the context evolves and the knowledge progresses. [3.1 Fluidity over time, but can't we make sense at a moment in time? 3.2 Again I know what you're saying, nothing is fixed, context is fractal, we know as we go. 3.3 Maybe a situation doesn't always have fluidity, in long time yes, but statement feels a bit absolute? 3.4 I think this comment also assumes a lot of knowledge so will need cross referencing to other areas of the site. We probably need a way to flag these dependencies and pre-requisites to the people writing the other areas of the site] The introduction of liminality renewed the attention to Cynefin Dynamics. [4. Again I'd have to listen to the video first, I can't remember the timeline in my head if the dynamics came before Liminality. Seem to remember Dave drawing the circles in a meet-up without Liminality. IE. Was it Liminality that renewed attention, for who, as in was this the only thing that renewed the attention] Many dynamics exist. The above diagram is capturing the essential ones, which we are detailing below. [5.1 Again, got to listen to the video, I guess this could relate to potential for infinite possible patterns of movement in reality? 5.2 Framing sounds like dynamics of incomplete, Vs dynamics consciously - if that's the case - highlights the patterns of most use, or that repeated across a number of contexts and over time?] Decisions points have been marked (alpha, beta, gama, etc) and are also explained. Movement between the domain can be achieved by: [6. Can be achieved, feels definite? 'is possible' or, set some boundaries around this statement? 'within the Cynefin Framework'] Progressing the knowledge from multiple probes [7. do we achieve movement by this? Is this about awareness of need to move, or that they context is shifting?] Changing the nature of the constraints (enabling / rules or governing / policies) [8. Agree with this, maybe a tweak here, but can't put my finger on why I'm thinking this. Also needs a flag to constraints group to cross reference.] Placing boundaries and the nature of the boundaries [9.1 Needs expanding, but clearly you've intentionally summarised for now am guessing. 9.2 Is this a point about constraints design or dynamics? IE. What goes in dynamics, what gets spilt out? Who decides this. - either way, great that you put this down] DecompositionEtc. [10 of? Constraints am guessing?] That's it off top of head, apologies for adding here, can't edit in wiki, so tried to help here instead. Will watch the video, am conscious that some of my thoughts may be directly contradicted in there..!! [Edit: oh, and I'll be wrong on some views / thoughts clearly.] (edited)

Philippe Guenet 12:06 PM @Iain_P [1 and 2] Static view / Cynefin and dynamics --> Dave started like this. If you see a better way, please feel free to edit. [3.1 - 3.2 ] yes - though different contexts will evolve at different speed. You can have a snapshot indeed. There is a view that seeing things should not be in a static perspective but with a view of its future dynamics [3.3] Even if things stabilise, I think that over time the context will change and dynamics will apply. If anything when things stabilise and industrialise, where do you put your mind to next? [3.4] fair enough, please make inserts where you see fit [4] Dynamics were always there, but when putting liminality together (2018 I think), Dave created more attention to the boundary states and the transition. This renewed the focus on the dynamics . There are some dynamics that we could include with 3x3 in each Domain and ways how it may go from one domain to anoher. Maybe we should include this. [5.1] the Cliff of complacency is not strictly covered in the dynamics because it is not an active decision but the lack of decision/resilience. You could also detail more dynamics such as the Purple joining the Blue when something stabilises. I don’t think that we should talk about patterns of movement (this is Wardley Map language - different). [5.2] I don’t understand your comment - please edit if you see fit. [6] feel free to edit [7} yes Cynefin is more about the cognitive elements. Dynamics are achieved by experiments/learning. (Wardley maps offer another take on movement - compatible, not conflicting) [8] ?? [9] This is why I have included a table about the decision points. I think that it is worthwhile documenting the decisions points. Sometimes it just happens, but having some cognition and intentionality is always better. [10} decomposition / recomposition / exaptation is something Dave has been mentioning a lot in the aporetic turn (in other chats as well).

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Philippe Guenet 12:08 PM I am also considering adding in there something about what may support the transition points (eg Scrum in alpha / entangled trios in Gamma / Ritual dissent in Shallow Dive into chaos / etc.

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Cynefin 3 Points

Björn Schwenninger 9:48 AM Based on our kick-off session this morning I could image going forward like this regarding the method development for 3-Points: Copy the 4-Points entry from the wiki which is already filled to a certain extent, and start adjusting for 3-Points: make (optional) liminal divides and/or Clear-Complicated divide; variants for creation of data points in a workshop or (better) beforehand. And then go further to describing how to run the methoid asynchronously vs. synchronously. Any thoughts on this?

Pierre Andipatin 9:55 AM joined #cynefinthreepoints.

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Philippe Guenet 9:58 PM https://cynefin.io/index.php/3-points 9:59 Also including https://cynefin.io/index.php/4-points as it is quite related

Greg Brougham 11:29 AM Add linear as this is also related - https://cynefin.io/index.php/Linear_construction_of_Cynefin

Philippe Guenet 11:50 AM Linear Cynefin has a derivative, “Reverse Wardley”, now called “Options Relationship Mapping” (invented by Liz Keogh and Karl Scotland and included by Mike Burrows in Agendashift). It has an horizontal scale of ambiguity and a vertical scale of visibility to the customer (inherited from value chains in Wardley Maps). Should we look to make references to those as derivatives? (I know a thing or 2 about WM :slightly_smiling_face: ). Thoughts?

Björn Schwenninger 12:01 PM If "Options Relationship Mapping" is described somewhere we could reference it from the Wiki and describe an optional link with 3-Points/4-Points/Linear. As far as I can see from here (https://blog.agendashift.com/2019/02/12/stringing-it-together-with-reverse-wardley/) it can be shared under Creative Commons. AgendashiftAgendashift | Mike Burrows Stringing it together with Reverse Wardley Update (November 2019): Over the months, the new exercise described here has served us incredibly well. With full credit to Liz and Karl, it’s a great addition to our workshops and I love it! The working title Reverse Wardley that I gave it is proving way too nerdy for some tastes though, and after several iterations we have settled on Option Relationship Mapping. I’ve also added a new tag ‘mapping‘ to this and related posts. A few weeks ago in #workshops in the Agendashift Slack, Karl Scotland posted this: Liz and I have just figured out how to use Wardley Mapping to create the Transformation Map. Muwahahaha. The basic idea is to take the FOTO outcomes that ge… Show more Pinned by Khurshid

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Tom Kerwin 9:11 AM I had a chance to do a Cynefin three points session with a group of people I know from the product world, so am doing one at lunchtime today. My goal is to get a bit of practice in a safe-to-fail place, try this out remotely using the hexies in Mural, and generate some training data. Aiming to start by provoking some stories of decision and change points out of the group (I’m thinking look to the past day, week, month, quarter, year, with prompts from ASHE(R)N, and then once we’ve got something down, seek the exemplars and make the three-point map 9:12 I notice there are no dos and don’ts on the wiki page for three-point yet. Can you think of anything I should be aware of / watch out for?

Philippe Guenet 10:14 AM I would think that for approach it is fairly similar than 4 points except that the distinction Clear/Complicated happens only later in the process (as this is essentially a human & contextual overlay rather than a system characteristic). Another key element that Dave mentioned was to pay attention to the liminality and take time over the stage for the boundary objects. Aporetic and how aporetic plays a role in the dynamics is an important consideration here too. You can cover this well though the pink ribbon in 2 stages --> first you place the ribbon in relation to those that are clearly in the domain, --> then you look at the boundary objects and reposition the ribbon. For what remains in Confused, you can look at decomposition and distribution of the decomposed agents. Some may stay in aporetic.

Tom Kerwin 12:19 PM Lovely! Thanks @Philippe Guenet

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Greg Brougham 10:17 AM And the three points page - https://cynefin.io/index.php/3-points

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Luca 8:41 PM Drafted a process/method for dataset generation here. Applicable to Butterflies and possibly somewhere else. Feedback/ideas/herding welcome! PRJ_ComplexityWiki.png PRJ_ComplexityWiki.png

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Tom Kerwin 3:32 PM I’ve collated the data I collected when I ran the three-points exercise on Friday. This data is quite “on the nose” rather than the metaphorical or fictional examples. It’s a bunch of decisions product designers needed to make. There are 90. Some are quite ambiguous / confusing, but maybe that’s good? I’ll add them to a thread off this.

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Tom Kerwin 9:22 AM replied to a thread: I’ve collated the data I collected when I ran the three-points exercise on Friday. This data is quite “on the nose” rather than the metaphorical or fictional examples. It’s a bunch of decisions product designers needed to make. There are 90. Some are quite ambiguous / confusing, but maybe that’s good?… I’m thinking about repeating this exercise with some other designers to get another bundle of decision descriptions.

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Iain_P 8:41 AM Removed post as put it in wrong group, apologies. (edited)

Luca 8:45 PM Re: https://fieldguidewik-2co3005.slack.com/archives/C01MQ2CJUTH/p1614631299042300 I moved the discussion to a Wiki article, called "Training data-sets". If interested, please also read discussions on Talk page Luca Drafted a process/method for dataset generation here. Applicable to Butterflies and possibly somewhere else. Feedback/ideas/herding welcome! PRJ_ComplexityWiki.png PRJ_ComplexityWiki.png

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Greg Brougham 8:10 AM And the page link - https://cynefin.io/wiki/Training_data-sets

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Greg Brougham 8:26 AM To help clarify the difference between training and exemplar kits I’ve dropped the standard ones from the mini-book on the exemplar page - https://cynefin.io/wiki/Cynefin_exemplar_kits

Iain_P 10:23 AM Has anyone looked at a data set for software development / business change? Am about to run this activity with Head of Digital and Business Owner.. have a Raci grid of activity as a starting list I'm going to rip apart.. but just floating this out there.

Tom Kerwin 10:27 AM I dropped a bunch of data in a thread for product decisions

Tom Kerwin 10:28 AM Ran with a bunch of folks from different businesses, prompting them to think about different types of product decision through using ASHEN and different timescales of decision from minutes to years

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Tom Kerwin 11:37 AM replied to a thread: Ran with a bunch of folks from different businesses, prompting them to think about different types of product decision through using ASHEN and different timescales of decision from minutes to years Trimmed, edited and added :ballot_box_with_check: View newer replies

Greg Brougham 3:39 PM I’ve done some editing on https://cynefin.io/wiki/3-points to address a number of inconsistencies. I think there is some confusion between exemplars and data sets on the page - see the talk page

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Decision / Knowledge Mapping Study Group

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Elena Tochilina 5:49 PM 1. The Purpose of Knowledge Mapping 2. Where it's applicable 3. What happens to an organisation where KM is a good practice 4. How do we practically use the method? Steps! 5. Who is in charge of KM? In-house experts / teams or outside consultants? 6. Case study (Story book?) You7:49 PM 7. Risks of not having DM (for DM wiki)

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alistair.macdonald 11:01 AM Link to todays first session: https://cognitive-edge.wistia.com/medias/7jd586r83b Wistia, Inc. The Cynefin Wiki- Decision Mapping: Knowledge Mapping 1 GALLERY VIEW

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Greg Spencer 6:07 PM OK - @David Snowden is encouraging us to drop Otter Transcripts as and when we can... so here's the one from this morning's session! https://otter.ai/u/JYGaNrVJ365Al05iPQkSrYCU6Uw

otter.aiotter.ai Knowledge-Mapping-01(22-02-21) Mon, Feb 22, 2021 1:43 PM; Duration: 1:06:15 (25 kB) Speakers Dave Snowden; Keywords people, knowledge, wiki, methods, called, decision, put, create, articles, ibm, facilitation, plaster, cluster, problem, stories, tacit, sessions, book, happened, counterfactual; https://public.otter.ai/img/otterplayer-lrg.png

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Nourhan Badr El Din 6:08 PM Where is the night link

Greg Spencer 6:14 PM The second session is right now. It's being recorded... or jump on with this link: Meeting ID: 856 6303 4559 Passcode: Wiki2021 https://us02web.zoom.us/w/85663034559?tk=EBHv8EUDRq-StTgVjnYVIkkgG9rcNJHnChhyIgVGNIs.DQIAAAAT8eosvxZRM3J2dHhoSFJzdVE5OHZNdUdaTlBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA&pwd=NDhyQlF3dVF4akYxeGdvSjBhNnRpZz09

Nourhan Badr El Din 6:14 PM Thank you

Aine Carroll 6:53 PM was added to #decisionmapping by Arabela.

alistair.macdonald 10:17 PM Here is the second session: https://cognitive-edge.wistia.com/medias/u7cireg328 Wistia, Inc. The Cynefin Wiki- Decision Mapping: Knowledge Mapping 2 GALLERY VIEW

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Philippe Guenet 9:15 AM I was thinking about Decision mapping - and something is puzzling me that may have to do with dark constraints. I have worked in many organisations (especially banks but also startups) where people aim to follow process especially around Budget / Project planning. Huge amount of efforts goes into up-front analysis to build comfort into the plan. If the number that come out is “too big” based on the wish/gutfeel that people had about the spend, it goes into replanning, with nothing new learnt and rescoping what to go with. The reductions are arbitrary and generally foolish. The people that will do the work feel resigned to produce something they don’t believe in, frustrated of making things up with no new knowledge, yet go along with it. One time i turned to a team on a large project asking for their confidence in what they were planning. They all said, none whatsoever but were making decisions heading to a car crash. What I am wondering is how do we capture this in the Decision Mapping process. Those are Unknown Knowns. A lid is put on it and process followed, even if it is heading to a cliff. Execs are annoyed because people are not saying / People believe that the context is not allowing them to say. It does not feel to me like ASHEN is capturing this and I am wondering how we would capture the degree of Belief or to that matter Reserve/Reluctance at the point of decision. When people with the Skills & Experience have low Belief, you have to be worried. Thoughts?

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Greg Brougham 2:37 PM For those that have not found it yet there is the decision mapping page - https://cynefin.io/index.php/Decision_mapping (edited)

Philippe Guenet 10:00 PM I believe that we should also consider ASHEN - https://cynefin.io/index.php/ASHEN

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Philippe Guenet 11:44 AM At the risk of starting another big thread (of good discussions of course), I am wondering how far we should consider OODA loop here too and potentially include it as another reference. OODA = Observe --> Orient --> Decide --> Act I think that there is plenty in what has been covered to look at this linear process. What is more interesting about OODA is the feedback loop (double and triple) though. In a Complex landscape, your decisions are about unfolding the complexity and your choice of time horizons for orienting again depends on the speed of learning that you can generate. So, the decision does not matter as much as the feedback you get from it and no decision is actually final. When it becomes clearer it has most likely shifted Domain (complicated most likely or somewhat chaotic if it is becoming very urgent). So, I am wondering if we should have some consideration about shortly after the decision: if the decision was rigid how prepared for reading signals of unfolding complexity they were how prepared they were to reorient on what cycle of learning / orient were they working

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David Snowden 12:34 PM PDF Knowledge Mapping.pdf 4 MB PDF4 MB — Click to view

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Donna Glanvill 6:18 AM Does anyone have a transcript of the second session please? TIA

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Greg Spencer 10:58 AM Raw Transcript. As ever, I am quite happy to give editing rights to anyone who ever wants to work these up into something more polished! https://otter.ai/u/SRzM6kJa_uoPqKvorMAJolEZ8K8

otter.aiotter.ai Knowledge-Mapping-2 Wed, Mar 3, 2021 10:27 AM; Duration: 1:05:29 (25 kB) Keywords people, knowledge, methods, decision, wiki, mapping, called, create, heuristics, codify, process, question, ibm, plaster, put, problem, realised, point, projects, group;

Entangled Trios

Thanos Andreou 9:00 PM a decade ago: https://physicsworld.com/a/superconducting-trio-get-entangled/ Physics WorldPhysics World Superconducting trio get entangled – Physics World Breakthrough could boost quantum error correction Sep 29th, 2010 (89 kB) https://physicsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/trans1.jpg white_check_mark eyes raised_hands

Tom Kerwin 11:31 AM An interesting read about brain plasticity and emergence: https://meltingasphalt.com/neurons-gone-wild/

alistair.macdonald 2:43 PM Hello all, here is the recording of session one: https://cognitive-edge.wistia.com/medias/zwp7i0hmf3 Wistia, Inc. The Cynefin Wiki - Entangled trios 1 GALLERY VIEW

alistair.macdonald 10:45 AM here is the second session: https://cognitive-edge.wistia.com/medias/zrhb0y506b Wistia, Inc. The Cynefin Wiki - Entangled trios 2 GALLERY VIEW

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otter.aiotter.ai Entangled Trios 2 Mon, Mar 8, 2021 4:09 PM; Duration: 1:04:04 (25 kB) Speakers Dave Snowden; Keywords people, create, trio, system, roles, weak signal, formal, work, diaries, network, maker, informal networks, build, programme, big, problem, question, idea, connect, ibm; https://public.otter.ai/img/otterplayer-lrg.png

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Exaptive Triggers

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alistair.macdonald 2:50 PM hello all.. here is the first session recording: https://cognitive-edge.wistia.com/medias/kfzp3c4m5e Wistia, Inc. The Cynefin Wiki - Exaptive triggers 1 GALLLERY VIEW

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alistair.macdonald 10:46 AM here is the second session: https://cognitive-edge.wistia.com/medias/ucvwtj7n27 Wistia, Inc. The Cynefin Wiki - Exaptive triggers 2 GALLERY VIEW

Luca 1:45 PM Do we agree that "Exaptation" and "Radical repurposing" are synonims here?

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Luca 9:16 PM For discussion... 2 questions: is the Exaptive triggers method related to the top-right quadrant only, or should the other quadrants be considered lesser variants of the same method? Would you describe other methods such as distributed ethnography as external (i.e. providing input sets) or nested submethods, within to Exaptive triggers? 2x2 matrix content to be improved, too: feedback welcome. (edited) PRJ_ComplexityWiki_DiscoveryIdeationMatrix.png PRJ_ComplexityWiki_DiscoveryIdeationMatrix.png

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Donna Glanvill 11:08 AM Has anyone made transcripts of these sessions? TIA

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Greg Spencer 1:59 PM The two transcripts: https://otter.ai/u/Q1AiLbfWVSc9YGAJq0AZ8UjOPA8 https://otter.ai/u/hVQJxMDUSqik9wSQPNat6X5CGRY

otter.aiotter.ai Exaptive Triggers 1 Mon, Mar 8, 2021 1:02 PM; Duration: 1:07:51 (25 kB) Speakers Greg S, Dave Snowden; Keywords people, create, problem, organisation, realise, abstraction, started, solutions, dyslexics, ideas, generalists, method, evolutionary, produce, change, links, startup, find, learn, innovation; https://public.otter.ai/img/otterplayer-lrg.png

otter.aiotter.ai Exaptive Triggers 2 Mon, Mar 8, 2021 12:57 PM; Duration: 1:00:25 (25 kB) Speakers Dave Snowden; Keywords people, ibm, problem, wiki, link, day, company, find, methods, point, process, stories, put, means, organisation, innovation, novelty, create, produce, ideas; https://public.otter.ai/img/otterplayer-lrg.png

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Arabela:cat-herder: 7:16 PM Thank you @Greg Spencer. Have included the 2 links in the temp page in the wiki.

Arabela:cat-herder: 7:20 PM set the channel topic: Discussion to move from Slack to Wiki. Temp page for ideation: https://cynefin.io/wiki/Temp:_Exaptive_triggers

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alistair.macdonald 6:26 PM Hi all, Welcome! This is the channel for any general or practical questions.

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David Snowden 11:58 PM How to use the wiki sessions set up at 0900 and 1700 GMT Monday 22nd both in Dave’s Zoom 250 600 4740 PW: Cynefin (edited)

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Greg Brougham 11:34 AM @here if you are not familiar with slack, worth a read - https://medium.com/better-humans/a-slacks-engineer-system-to-using-slack-efficiently-17168c930b89 MediumMedium A Slack’s Engineer System to Using Slack Efficiently How to customize Slack so you get the notifications you need — when you need to get them Reading time 11 min read Jun 16th, 2020 (115 kB) https://miro.medium.com/focal/1200/632/36/65/1*19kbyEO-ADCPKFEnqz8CHw.jpeg

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Conor O'Brien 7:11 AM Hi Gar.

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Paweł Nowak (Nowy) 6:04 PM Hi, I am trying to enter Zoom meeting, but I am not sure if I have correct meeting ID: tel:2506004740 <-- is it valid?

Arabela:cat-herder: 6:07 PM For the Decision mapping/knowledge mapping?

Paweł Nowak (Nowy) 6:07 PM yes

Arabela:cat-herder: 6:09 PM Meeting ID 856 6303 4559

Paweł Nowak (Nowy) 6:10 PM Thank you! 6:10 and what is the passcode?

Tatiana -- cat herder:cat2: 6:11 PM Wiki2021 Are we recording the conversations?

Paweł Nowak (Nowy) 6:12 PM @Arabela @Tatiana -- cat herder thanks! Pinned by Greg Brougham

Greg Brougham 6:56 PM Invite for the slack - https://join.slack.com/t/cynefincommunity/shared_invite/zt-md8b9nfo-u_k3CAuHNsLdTxYjHzfP4w SlackSlack Join Cynefin Community on Slack Slack is a new way to communicate with your team. It’s faster, better organized, and more secure than email. (138 kB) https://a.slack-edge.com/72d9c/img/invites/slack-features.jpg

Paweł Nowak (Nowy) 7:01 PM Could you provide me with the meeting ID and passcode for the Constraint mapping?

Paweł Nowak (Nowy) 7:01 PM Sorry, I can't find these pieces of information on Eventbrite.

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Greg Brougham 7:01 PM Will look to drop the constraint mapping channel - give me a minute

David Crowe 7:02 PM Go to the event page and follow the link

Tatiana -- cat herder:cat2: 7:02 PM 859 6479 7168 Wiki2021

Paweł Nowak (Nowy) 7:02 PM Thank you!

Elena Tochilina 9:05 AM Can I use this as well, or do we have individual IDs for the wiki? Tatiana -- cat herder 859 6479 7168 Wiki2021 Posted in #general | Feb 22nd | View message

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Jagriti Kapoor 9:31 AM Hi all, is there a recording of the Cynefin Basecamp ?

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alistair.macdonald 9:59 AM FYI - Recordings of each 2 x sessions are being made available in each channel a few hours after they are completed.

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Naresh Datta 11:26 AM @alistair.macdonald, do we have on Cynefin Basecamp?

Donna Glanvill 11:27 AM There are no recordings of Basecamp, sorry - it's a full 12-hour programme over 4 sessions. You can find virtual BaseCamp events here: https://www.cognitive-edge.com/training-and-events/?_event_category=base-camps

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uma 4:51 PM Not quite sure where to put this, so am sharing in this channel.. that the Glossary page currently seem to be about translations in other languages.. but for those lesser mortals like me, can we begin with a handy english meaning for such high sounding words like aporetic, exaptation etc.. ? In fact even what is a "decision" (in context) was something that came up as a question in one of the sessions.. (edited)

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Manuela Schwenninger:black_cat: 6:27 PM Hi all, the cat herders have created a channel if you need help from us.

i-need-help, please join it.

We are also about to create an FAQ where you can look up your question. But as long as we don't have the FAQ, please place your question in the #i-need-help channel (edited)

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alistair.macdonald 9:44 AM More session recordings have gone up in #constraintmapping and #triopticon this morning.

Khurshid 1:03 PM Hi All, if you are looking for recordings of sessions on topics you can go and search the channel for the topic or the Cat Headers are posting links to the original posts in the channel #i-need-recordings. Hopefully this collection of links to original posts will be helpful for reviewing the conversations in the recordings. Please let us know if we can improve this or anything else by posting your feedback in #cat-herder-private-group channel.

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uma 10:05 AM can someone send the link for the session now on Human sensor networks please? 10:07 is this session on Human networks happening now?

Elena Tochilina 10:09 AM https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86329576819?pwd=dlRza1I4MkQxMzBlS1JpUEFwR2JmZz09

uma 10:10 AM thank you @Elena Tochilina

Philippe Guenet 10:19 AM I have created a channel about #wardley-maps as they have been mentioned a few times and it is very likely that they will figure in the Wiki.

Inger Heebøll Gemzøe 1:25 PM I created a channel called suggetion box where people can write suggestions and wished as how they would like to work on the different topics. - It is not so much a 'I-need-help' as a possibility to discuss how to approach. Hope it will be useful

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Khurshid 1:45 PM replied to a thread: I created a channel called suggetion box where people can write suggestions and wished as how they would like to work on the different topics. - It is not so much a 'I-need-help' as a possibility to discuss how to approach. Hope it will be useful Good idea, I have one suggestion. When posting in this channel one should refer to the channel(s) suggestion is relevant to. #suggestionbox-how-to-collaborate-on-this

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 4:00 PM Is there a link for the 1600 session. Eventbrite is showing “Content not available yet”

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Andre Ribeiro 5:05 PM Zoom link for 1700 session?

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Tom Kerwin 10:12 AM Hexagonal stationery: https://artefactshop.com/collections/limited-editions/products/artefact-hex With code iknowpurple you get 10% off, apparently artefactshop.comartefactshop.com Artefact Hex Limited Edition Run of 100 By popular demand, we've created a set of hexagonal Artefact Cards, measuring 100 x 90mm. The bumper box is the biggest we've ever made, with 78 cards split between our six standard colours (so there's 13 of each), in a glorious yellow box finished with GF Smith's Colorplan stock, accompanied

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Khurshid 11:56 AM In few of the sessions Dave spoke about Cynefin Centre, the website for the centre has been launched https://cynefincentre.com/the-cynefin-framework/ The Cynefin CentreThe Cynefin Centre THE CYNEFIN FRAMEWORK® - The Cynefin Centre THE CYNEFIN® FRAMEWORK INTRODUCTION TO CYNEFIN® Cynefin, pronounced kuh-nev-in, is […] (159 kB) Est. reading time 2 minutes https://cynefincentre.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2021/02/framework-scaled-1024x1024-1-600x600-1.png

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Inger Heebøll Gemzøe 1:45 PM Anybody up for watching a session and subsequently diskussing the content in order to populate wikipedia and/or play around with ideas tomorrow (monday)?

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John Grant 2:01 PM The Wiki recently moved to cynefin.io. At this early stage I thought I draw attention to a couple of problems with .io domains outlined in the attached post: There are two major problems with .io domains: The first is that the islands which should own the domain suffix, don’t, thanks to a wonderful piece of modern day British Imperialism. If you ever feel the need to donate to us, please give it to a more worthy cause. Secondly, there was a security issue with the .io domain. In 2017, a researcher managed to take control of four of the seven authoritative name servers for the .io domain. We accept that mistakes can happen, strong processes limit the chances of them happening, but they still can. https://www.diagrams.net/blog/move-diagrams-net

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afahad 8:45 PM Just finished an Arabic translation of the Cynefin framework diagram. cynefin-framework-arabic.png cynefin-framework-arabic.png

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uma 3:48 AM Adam Grant's "Think again" speaks of bringing more complexity in our debates (getting out of binary bias) and seeing the nuances that often get overlooked or seeking the shades of grey in the complex continuum.. Thoughts/comments on drawing similar cynefin parallels (metaphors, facilitation techniques)?

Khurshid 10:41 AM replied to a thread: Anybody up for watching a session and subsequently diskussing the content in order to populate wikipedia and/or play around with ideas tomorrow (monday)? Hi @Tatiana -- cat herder invite has been sent on the email you had provided on cat herders doc View newer replies

Ravi Joshi 7:10 PM Hi all - I will be offline for couple of weeks from Wednesday 3rd March due to surgery - but would like to suggest capturing discussion points from the sensemaking book and / or recent sessions to discuss / clarify. Please would you let me know if this is of interest and if so - what the topic areas would be for you? Thanks!!

Naresh Datta 7:20 PM @David Snowden, Is voluntary subscription to this community still open? If yes, are we allowed to add people who express interests?

Richard S 8:11 AM I can’t access today’s eventbrite session ?

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Greg Spencer 8:12 AM Meeting ID: 899 6420 8933 Passcode: Wiki2021

Richard S 8:17 AM Thanks!

Bonnie Cheuk 6:21 PM I am not able to enter, it is pointing me to 8am session 6:22 Not sure anyone is on the zoom call now. I am trying to access the zoom event Entangled Trios 6pm GMT , but could get in

David Snowden 8:15 PM We’ve now come to the end of the initial briefings and I want to thank everyone for their involvement. Its meant long hours for me and a neglect of other tasks but the process and the conversations have been wonderfully energising! Now we move to codification so please set up additional sessions if people need them

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William Bartlett 9:31 AM Hello all :wave: Thank you for allowing me to join. I am willing to learn and contribute. I work for Zenika in Nantes, France. I am bilingual :uk: :fr: , so I can also help out with translations.

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William Bartlett 9:32 AM I don't currently have an account on the wiki. What is the process?

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William Bartlett 9:32 AM Are there any other French speakers or people based in France? :fr: :baguette_bread: :wine_glass:

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Luca 10:45 AM A few side thoughts on Methods and related concepts, grouped in one page. Feedback welcome! PRJ_ComplexityWiki_MethodConcept.png PRJ_ComplexityWiki_MethodConcept.png

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Bonnie Cheuk 7:38 PM @David Snowden - I am not able to enter the Cynerfin.io wiki, can you help? Thanks! I enjoyed ALL the sessions!

Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 7:52 PM We have set up a #i-need-wiki-help so do drop wiki specific queries in there. If you are experienced (even vaguely) in wiki, please do join to offer help and signposting. Many of us are learning, so sharing that learning journey would be useful. (the herders-of-cats :cat2:) (edited)

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JosephBradley 1:26 AM @Bonnie Cheuk - you appear to have spelled cynefin.io improperly - try it without the "r"

Tom Kerwin 3:14 PM Seen in the wild:

A quick diversion on rhododendrons - The comedian who observed that it doesn’t sound like a flower, it sounds like a siege engine. "My liege, they have rhododendrons! All is lost!"

JosephBradley 3:15 PM possibly more cost effective than a trebuchet!

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David Snowden 10:24 AM Thanks to everyone for the work todate - and especially for the illustrations on the Triopticon article. I just went through and made a series of minor changes. Mainly making sure that any new article was in the opening page directories and creating some new articles where material was referenced. A quick skim though those may be useful. (edited)

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David Snowden 8:53 AM New wiki training/discussion sessions set up - as much about how the thing works as the technical aspects of how to edit. These can also be clinics for individual activities.

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David Snowden 8:54 AM 9th March 1700; 10th March 0800 & 1900; 11the March 0800 and 1900. All times GMT and in my Zoom 250 600 4740 PW: Cynefin

JosephBradley 4:58 PM Did I just arrive a day early?

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The cat-herders have been listening and supporting, and caught up with Dave on Friday. Here are some clarifications and next steps, after that session. First sprint - Field-Guide This is the first sprint is to get a wiki presence up ready for the hard copy release of the field-guide, in early April. The target being ‘something is better than nothing’, rather than perfection. The 3 stages are: 1. Start the wiki for each subject 2. Refine the style 3. Cognitive Edge to create external artefacts (more designed), using the knowledge accumulated in wiki, to support the release. Future sprints There is an intention to have further sprints on other focus areas, during the year, once the field-guide is released. Slack to Wiki In the next few weeks, the temporary Field-Guide Slack channels will be retired and hence the need to build the interaction/discussion in the wiki, rather than Slack is important. Communication can still occur in the Cynefin Community Slack channel. Principles Do get stuff into the wiki, now that the initial discovery is done. It’s better to do, than not do. Get it in the wiki, even if it is notes rather than fully organised. Ask for support, from the cat-herders or post in the various help channels. We are here to help. In addition, we have sensed some hesitation to publish, so to support the wiki building, we have adopted a few suggestions which will appear in the next few days More wiki Zoom sessions: to build confidence and answer questions (you will have seen Dave’s first note about this already) Create a mindmap of the pages that need completing: it can be a little difficult to get an overview view of the challenge, just by navigating the existing wiki alone. So, crearing an overview will make the challenge clearer and get a view of gaps that still need to be filled. Temporary wiki pages: Some people are editing the wiki (fabulous, well done and keep going) while there are also feelings of ‘not wanting to mess it up’. So much of the conversation is happening in the Slack channels. So we have suggested to create some temp wiki pages, so people can organise their thoughts and discussions, before then moving them over to the main pages. Hopefully these pages will appear in the next few days, to support this method and align with the mind map too. Hopefully, it’s a little clearer and gives you the reassurance to get your thoughts down, rather than wait. If you have any more thoughts or suggestions that will help your writing, then let the herders know or post in the help channels. Cat-Herders - Serving Cynefin cats everywhere

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Iain_P 10:57 AM Is there space somewhere for a piece about the uses of abstraction when making sense of and managing in complex systems? e.g. Lifting up a level or decomposing down? Stuck on a project activity nitty gritty, reduce the granularity - shift up to higher levels of abstraction, then look for ways to recombine / beneficial patterns.. (edited)

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JosephBradley 5:01 PM Is there a better link for the Wiki session?

Greg Brougham 5:02 PM https://us02web.zoom.us/j/2506004740 with password Cynefin

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Iain_P 7:07 AM Hi all, am looking at the principles, metaphors and checklists. Very few of Dave's stories on there and when I first started with Cynefin I found these very interesting / useful. Has anyone else started collating a list of them? I've got a few from the Online foundations I can write up, will dig out my notes.

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David Snowden 7:55 AM Getting the metaphors and stories up would be good

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Greg Brougham 10:55 AM @here I’ve added a suggestion/hint to the main page following the call yesterday to simplify page addition -> if constructing new page add the link for it to the existing page first to ensure it is not lost. When you then click on the link it will be created

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uma 1:38 PM Yes that is a easy way to create a page. however keep in mind we need to adhere to templates as well :)

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Irina - cat herder 6:01 PM Based on an discussion this morning I have started a Mural Board (not yet populated) that can hopefully prove useful in keeping track of the overall Wiki Contributions progress, and intentions to contribute - thank you @Philippe Guenet for the nudge - https://app.mural.co/t/atssl4507/m/atssl4507/1615399068909/b37682e9e3656a564e8614db3bb3ae96c101e40f

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Elena Tochilina 6:17 PM @Luca, could you resend us the sandbox link? please

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 8:05 PM Wiki edits Dave has established the working ‘temp’ pages to act as a bridge from Slack to Published wiki. https://cynefin.io/wiki/Field_guide_to_managing_complexity_(and_chaos)_in_times_of_crisis#List_of_temporary_pages Hopefully we can explore this more in the wiki calls tomorrow. 11the March 0800 and 1900. All times GMT and in Dave’s Zoom 250 600 4740 PW: Cynefin The feedback has been “We are further on than we thought” so I think that is a compliment to you all, so keep going. It’s looking good.

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Iain_P 8:24 PM I've got a list of nearly 40 stories to start adding.. but I kind of dont want to start adding 40 pages without some input.. things like titles of the story.

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Greg Spencer 10:24 PM I don't see any good way of getting what I want to save from this Slack channel before it gets closed.... but reading this piece, an Admin may be able to get something useful... Otherwise, I suspect it's a day's work archiving each sub-thread by hand! https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/help/articles/201658943-Export-your-workspace-data

Slack Help CenterSlack Help Center Export your workspace data With Slack, you can export data from your workspace or Enterprise Grid organisation. Depending on your subscription, you may have a few options for data exports: free Standard Plus Enterprise...

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 9:06 AM To continue the thought, that we was having in the wiki session… The is a need for a number of ‘ways in’ to this, on a number of levels What is Cynefin and how do I get an introduction How does it relate/be appliced to certain areas What are the tools used for? and in our current posution… How can I know what needs to be created, so it is easy for me to contribute? The temp pages are a start and maybe we need a ‘map/steps’ to help people navigate, as it feels like there is still some ‘I don’t know, what I don’t know’ and ’I don’t know where to start” What do we need to make it easy and accessible for people to contribute? (edited)

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Iain_P 8:14 PM No idea what the Mural kanban was intended for, but I've loaded the wiki headers onto it..

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8:14 https://app.mural.co/t/atssl4507/m/atssl4507/1615399068909/b37682e9e3656a564e8614db3bb3ae96c101e40f mural.co Cynefin Wiki 'Kanban' Board (953 B) https://murally.blob.core.windows.net/thumbnails/atssl4507/murals/atssl4507.1615399068909-6049089c472db12d97f795ee-9c84cc93-fbab-4509-88ee-a663afcd942f.png?v=e0d83c8c-4e87-498f-8d29-c50527ab083b

Oskar Kaminski 8:17 PM Who can help me to create an account on the cynefincommunity.slack.com?

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Davina Burgess 5:31 AM Landing page, glossary/definition and Wiki architecture ideas: @Colin Pinks and @Greg Spencer and anyone else interested in a chat around initial thoughts? (edited)

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 9:52 AM replied to a thread: Landing page, glossary/definition and Wiki architecture ideas: @Colin Pinks and @Greg Spencer and anyone else interested in a chat around initial thoughts? Agree with lots of points. Building a mind map to surface all the pieces, to help us all understand and fill in the pages for the essential first deadline (field guide publish) and then building journeys through that for personas feels like an interesting challenge.

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Richard S 10:44 AM Hello all. I attended David's talks recently and I'm keen to contribute to the wiki. Who needs some help?

Richard S 10:47 AM I'm new into the mural and it seems to be just sticky notes. Can we add some lines to show how things are grouped/decomposed? There are implied connections but it's not explicit. Davina Burgess I feel we are getting to a point where it would be helpful for anyone interested to collectively play with the mural board and try ro establish patterns ans connections and discuss what typologies which may not have been captured etc and elements therein... It will be messy as there is no right way forward here, but i feel doinf this together would at least encourage group understanding of the task, where we are at and potential ways forward... Whaddya thunk folks? From a thread in #constraintmapping | Mar 5th | View reply

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Iain_P 6:01 PM Hi, just checking, when does this channel get shut down? Also, how long is there left to get content on the wiki before switch to polishing what exists at that point?

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David Snowden 6:11 PM I’ve asked Ally to check with the cat herders Wednesday with a view closing it down. End March for your other point leaving the first week in April to polish (edited)

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Greg Spencer 8:57 AM Does anyone know how to give us responsive blocks on the homepage / landing pages? So they default to two columns but render in one column for folk squinting at mobile devices? Wikidata appears to have cracked it. Can we import their template and adapt from that? See https://www.wikidata.org/

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DariusG 8:13 PM Hi @Colin Pinks I would appreciate access to the cynefincommunity.slack.com.

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uma 12:32 PM hi folks.. could people share some notes of the session today.. while I could gather an overall understanding with some anecdotals and principles of these human networks, I am yet to visualize them with respect to information on the wiki.. I am sure practitioners would have a different view here.. thoughts / comments? white_check_mark eyes raised_hands

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 3:59 PM Is there a link for the 1600 session. Eventbrite is showing “Content not avaiable yet”

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otter.aiotter.ai The Cynefin Wiki - Human sensor networks - 01 Fri, Feb 26, 2021 5:24 PM; Duration: 1:07:54 (25 kB) Keywords people, stories, problem, thinking, create, sensor networks, company, big, purpose, network, called, work, mission statement, executives, put, journalists, part, employees, realise, system; https://public.otter.ai/img/otterplayer-lrg.png

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alistair.macdonald 3:52 PM Hi all see todays morning session: https://cognitive-edge.wistia.com/medias/xhftjhsfri (edited) Wistia, Inc. The Cynefin Wiki - Human sensor networks - internal to the organisation:public & external 1 GALLERY VIEW

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uma 2:23 PM Hi folks Thanks for being here.. here's my help request I am not an expert.. just a learner. I am wondering how I could possibly contribute as a learner to this initiative. Really look forward to your thoughts and ideas (edited)

Inger Heebøll Gemzøe 4:16 PM Hi Uma - I've also been wonderung about how to work with the material eg. The 3 point method. I was wondering if it could be approached like an innovative project and some people could form a team whete the method is discussed and some possible models are generated?

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uma 4:23 PM Yes @Inger Heebøll Gemzøe such team sign-ups for methods would be interesting and helpful. Could you expand on what you mean by models here?

Inger Heebøll Gemzøe 4:29 PM From what I got (and possiby misunderstood) Dave would like to have the usual 4 point method expanded upon. See if is possible to create a 3 point method (because the division of the ordered domain is really artificial). He expressed that it might be adventatious to start by explaining the confused domain. 4:32 I guess it is a live-as-you-preach approach. So let's consider the formulation a complex matter, form groups and several work on concepts and methods. Probe so to speak

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 4:38 PM @uma @Inger Heebøll Gemzøe My suggestion would be to ask for collaborators and build the base discussion (as you are doing) in the #cynefinthreepoints channel too, to build a mini working group and then populate a page. Build that probe. :cat2: (edited)

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Inger Heebøll Gemzøe 4:42 PM Good idea Colin :grinning:. I am going ack and forth between computer and family vacation. Have not seen enouh of the sessions to boldly invite. However, if someone (else) has the overview to take the initiative Im totally game for group initiatives

Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 4:48 PM Be brave and ask. I’m sure people will begin to flock together :-) We are all learning and wanting to share, so asking and giving help are both part of the adventure.

Inger Heebøll Gemzøe 4:56 PM "Miau" - any cat herders about?

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 5:00 PM I’m a herder

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Inger Heebøll Gemzøe 5:18 PM Tell you what Colin. I don't mind taking the initiative monday when we are back from vacation if that's not too late.

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Obhi Chatterjee 6:15 PM Should I have received login credentials for the wiki already? Or should I wait to receive them after having attended the training sessions this week and next?

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Adrian Duke 6:54 PM I’ve come over from the complexity slack, looking to help contribute towards the wiki by means of cleanup (spelling, linking, making sure articles adhere to templates… etc), wondering if there is a co-ordinated effort? I was told by the cat herders that @Anna might be that person? If there isn’t I’ll keep on keeping-on where I see issues

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Inger Heebøll Gemzøe 1:00 PM Would it be possible to create a channel or site where all the recordings of sessions could be placed? I would really like to be able to see in overview if I have already watched a session or not, and make sure I see sessions from every topic line

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 1:06 PM replied to a thread: Would it be possible to create a channel or site where all the recordings of sessions could be placed? I would really like to be able to see in overview if I have already watched a session or not, and make sure I see sessions from every topic line Already exists @Inger Heebøll Gemzøe. #i-need-recordings

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 4:01 PM Is there a link for the 1600 session. Eventbrite is showing “Content not available yet”

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Elena Tochilina 7:01 PM Could someone send a link to the Crews session starting now (1900)? please - event brite showing Content not available yet (edited)

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Martin O'Brien 12:07 AM Hi, relative newbie here as well. Am still trying to get a log in (have emailed Dave). Really keen to collaborate where possible

Khurshid 1:10 AM Hi Martin, if you have emailed Dave then check spam folder. the email is not going to from dave’s email account but from Cynefin.io and subject most like should read like “Account creation for Cynefin.io”

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Mario López de Ávila Muñoz 8:49 AM Dear herders, I am still without access to the Wiki. And yes, I have asked Dave, and it seems he tried, but I have not received any mail with credentials or the like (yes, I have checked the spam folder). Can anybody here help me? I really appreciate any help you can provide.

Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 8:51 AM I think he has a backlog AND is now getting @alistair.macdonald to admin too, so hopefully keep trying

Mario López de Ávila Muñoz 9:04 AM Thank you, Colin. I'll try with @alistair.macdonald later :slightly_smiling_face:

kitt 10:09 AM One way to check if an ID has been created is to keep an eye on the new user log. All new IDs come up in there. https://cynefin.io/wiki/Special:Log/newusers (edited)

Iain_P 9:25 PM Hi, I'm keen to help but I've come at this a few times now, on wiki and now on here and I still don't know to start to help or what's wanted (expectations). I get the wiki instructions (i.e. Start here), clearly will watch the videos next. But I don't know whether groups are now all formed. Do I just join in a conversation in a channel or put a subject I'd like to work on and look for people to join me? If someone can point me in a direction would be much appreciated.. #feelinglikeacat

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Khurshid 9:38 PM replied to a thread: Hi, I'm keen to help but I've come at this a few times now, on wiki and now on here and I still don't know to start to help or what's wanted (expectations). I get the wiki instructions (i.e. Start here), clearly will watch the videos next. But I don't know whether groups are now all formed. Do I just join in a conversation in a channel or put a subject I'd like to work on and look for people to join me? If someone can point me in a direction would be much appreciated.. #feelinglikeacat Hi Iain, we have a small enough group #three-pointed-study-group with members @Corina Lupu @Inger Heebøll Gemzøe @Tatiana -- cat herder @uma and myself, we are varying levels of proficiency with wiki; I myself has just began and the topic we are starting with is #cynefinthreepoints; which we have discussed few time and now reading field guide to get ourselves oriented. I am part of @catherders and am facilitating group meeting etc. Let us know if you would like to join us, other groups will be welcoming also.

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Iain_P 9:43 PM Hi Khurshid, thanks and much appreciated, more than happy to join in and lend a hand on this. :)

Iain_P 7:44 AM Hi again, are there constraints on the conversation threads? Ie. Channels? So a thread for instance on things like.. Synthesis of elements, or linking the channels, resilience, collating useful metaphors and analogies, strategy / strategic thinking,

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Khurshid 10:55 AM replied to a thread: Hi again, are there constraints on the conversation threads? Ie. Channels? … Hi @Iain_P as part of cat-herders @Davina Burgess has started a similar conversation you are welcome to discussion. Let’s create a channel to thread this conversation so we start the process.

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Iain_P 8:40 AM Hi, Would be good to check, I've posted in a few channels in slack so far. Is this ok? IE. Should / Must I keep to one or two and not work across multiple? (Don't want to break any boundaries that have been set) (edited)

Manuela Schwenninger:black_cat: 10:10 AM Hi Iain, its ok to post in multiple slack channels if the topic belongs to their group. Content should be developed in the wiki , Dave will offer a structure next week to kick it off.

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Iain_P 7:34 AM Can someone help me with how to add the stories to the metaphors page? Ie. Add the Page Title and the page itself. Then I'll use (ie. Copy) the children's party or one of the other stories as a starting point..

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Paweł Nowak (Nowy) 7:04 AM Hello, could you give me Wiki credentials? -> I haven't received them yet. (edited)

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 7:36 AM @Paweł Nowak (Nowy) Drop a note to Dave or Alastair directly, as they give wiki entry

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Titia Nijeboer 7:02 PM Hi everyone, love to contribute to the Knowledge mapping! I am not very confident in editing wikis, so first I will nose around a bit , but would love to have someone experienced with wikis nose around with me!

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Greg Brougham 3:17 PM And the knowledge mapping page exists as a stub - https://cynefin.io/index.php/Knowledge_mapping

Mike Haber 3:19 PM replied to a thread: Hi everyone, love to contribute to the Knowledge mapping! I am not very confident in editing wikis, so first I will nose around a bit , but would love to have someone experienced with wikis nose around with me! I’ve done a few edits - I’d be happy to help over a screen share.

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Mike Haber 8:37 AM I’ve started drawing up the notes I made. I do this to learn and make sense myself, they may be useful to others.

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David Snowden 11:20 AM have loaded slide set to decision mapping

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uma 12:17 PM I just added the list of these methods to KM https://cynefin.io/index.php/List_of_methods#Knowledge_management_methods I would like to invite people to discuss about each of these topics - Alternative Histories, Counter factual data, Decisions Diary, Lesson Learned Journals here..

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Corina Lupu 5:03 PM Is there already a group around decision/knowledge mapping? And if not, are there people interested in working on that? (edited)

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Donna Glanvill 7:58 AM https://www.cognitive-edge.com/cynefin-st-davids-day-4-of-5/ - a fairly recent blog with a set of emerging lists...

Khurshid 8:04 AM There is supposed to be a session happening right now but the join button isn’t enabled. Is anyone else having the same issues

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Greg Spencer 8:44 AM The whole "identity" side should probably be linked to Agnes Callard's work on aspiration as it links in a sense of "becoming" - another situation in which terms like "emergence" might get abused. "Becoming" generally trumps any sense of identity in relation to immediate ambitions as the latter merely reflect our immediate sense of how we are expected to show up in whatever is unfolding. Key thing: the "becoming" identity might be comparatively ambiguous but as it is linked to the gaze and/or judgments we are coming to value most strongly... https://think-boundless.com/aspiration-agnes-callard/

Boundless: Beyond The Default PathBoundless: Beyond The Default Path Aspiration, Meaning, & The Traps of Ambition (A Book Review of Agnes Callard's Aspiration) Book review on Agnes Callard's "Aspiration" about the philosophical role of aspiration and becoming in a meaningful and good life Written by Paul Millerd Est. reading time 14 minutes Oct 26th, 2020 (92 kB) https://i2.wp.com/think-boundless.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/aspiration.jpg?fit=1024%2C512&ssl=1 Pinned by Mario López de Ávila Muñoz

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Elena Tochilina 8:38 PM Triopticon (From 'get the Wiki populated' file that Dave sent to all of us) The method has now been run and refined several times and the process is pretty clear so can be taught. However it needs documenting and we also need to create multiple artefacts (some as yet unidentified) to make the process easier This includes a full animation and voice over of the process This method development will also include setting up, staging and recording several beta test conflict resolution versions of the Triopticon to run during March Material comparing and contrasting the Triopticon with other group facilitation techniques will be needed Additional or ongoing developments after core is complete This is a major method and will spawn others along with early stage credentialed offers to run the process so we are also looking to build consultancy capacity for the role out through this process. Qualifications & specific needs Participation in a past tripticon is useful but not essential - fresh eyes are needed. Experience of (and possibly frustration with) facilitation techniques useful as is some background in peace and conflict work where literature searches and publications will be needed (although not all involved have to do this)

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Paweł Nowak (Nowy) 11:55 AM @here Hello :slightly_smiling_face: I will start to storyboard the animation to provide an overview of the Triopticon process.

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Nazanin Jenkin 9:57 PM Hi Folks Esmee Wilcox (UK based) and I (NZ based) plan to start working together via Zoom on trying to articulate the facilitator role in the process. Our first session is provisionally scheduled for Friday, 5 March 7am GMT/ 8pm NZDT. If this is of interest and you want to be part of this discussion - email me and I'll send you the zoom invite. Cheers, Nazanin nazanin@nazaninjenkin.com (edited)

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 1:51 PM I’ve started a flat visual, that could end up as an info graphic, that can be shared in due course and live on the wiki. First in Powerpoint, as I’m not a designer, but something to grow from. @Paweł Nowak (Nowy) - worth a chat to align?

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 7:54 PM I have created a visual of the Triopticon facilitation, as a starting point. More diagrammatical than narrative. However, this might be a start for confirming understanding, before making anything more design led. It is currently a collection of slides, brought together as an info graphic style canvas. I have included a ‘Prologue’ as I imagined that there would be some ‘scene setting’ required for a group, so wanted to keep with the play analogy. Do we need an epilogue too? Thoughts/feedback welcome. (edited) PDF Triopticon - Infographic.pdf 4 MB PDF4 MB — Click to view

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Paweł Nowak (Nowy) 8:39 PM @Colin Pinks great piece of work!

Paweł Nowak (Nowy) 8:42 PM I have 2 general observations about Triopticon: there are no strict rules about timing - how long each scenes and acts should take, which roles are required and which are optional - there may be cases where there will be not enough people to fill all roles (maybe some participants can take more than 1 role). (edited)

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 12:44 AM replied to a thread: I have 2 general observations about Triopticon:… Timing - I did sketch/guess a timing plan, based on the scenario we did on the retreat with Dave in October, so will push that out tomorrow. I think that can be part of the discussion on Friday. 2. People/Roles - At this stage, I would imagine most of the roles identified in my sketch will be utilised in some form. The only exception might be Coyotte, which could be dropped if you couldn’t find the right people of have limited numbers. Magpies might be an optional, but once we got a shape, these would be good questions to pose to Dave and others for their perspective as they have run the sessions already.

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Davina Burgess 10:30 AM I am wondering how fixed the names are... eg at present the mere mortals are Ravens then Beavers then, as I recall, there is no archetype for the final phase... I have been playing with ideas and my favourite at present is Bats (rather than Ravens: big ears and collective term is cauldrons, which amuses me, so Bats would go into their cauldrons to discuss Eagle input)... keep Beavers (eager and constructing frameworks for future endeavour) then finally Bees, working together to create the sweet stuff... This would mean participants can always be signified by the letter B (yes, I now have a Sesame Street voice in my head, which I am trying to resist) which might come in handy... (edited) This file was deleted.

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 1:57 PM Here is v2 of the visual I have added an Epilogue suggestion as well as Prologue, for discussion. Magpies now added Timing schedule - I’ve added a suggested 2 day schedule (p9), based on a sketchy memory of timings for the Acts we did at the retreat in October (e.g. Scene 1 - 40/10/10). This was a virtual session, held over shorter days rather than in person. This is only a suggestion, for it to be discussed/edited/mashed up for different instances. I’ve left as slides in a pdf. When opened in a pdf reader, has a similar infographic effect. PDF Triopticon - Visual v2 - 2 Mar 21.pdf 3 MB PDF3 MB — Click to view

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 2:07 PM I’m going to start integrating the images into the page, so it fits with the dialogue. I’ll start doing this on my own page, as a sandbox, then transfer to Triopticon page, when it’s stable.

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2:07 If you want to see work in progress, look here https://cynefin.io/wiki/User:Colinpinks

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Paweł Nowak (Nowy) 7:48 PM Hello, we had great conversation with @Colin Pinks today :slightly_smiling_face: We will post the summary of our meeting soon. Right now I would like to share with you early draft of the storyboard for the animation. Please don't look at the design, it is just a conceptual sketch :wink: The idea is to give some useful advices on how to plan, run and facilitate the Triopticon workshop. It is not finished, but good enough to progress with the discussion and gather some feedback. Looking forward to your ideas and comments :slightly_smiling_face: PDF triopticon_storyboard_03_03_2021_pnowak.pdf 193 kB PDF193 kB — Click to view

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 4:23 PM This is what emerged from our conversation, which might feed into the chat on Friday… Description Build a clear value description of the method, so it is clear to new people. Possibly a comparison to other similar methods. Mechanics Build clarity on how the audience is divided up, their roles and where they are drawn from Are Owls drawn from audience or are they purely facilitator team members? What are the qualities / diversity required in selecting/sourcing Eagles? Case Studies Building examples would be helpful to illustrate including Initial purpose of the workshop Questions asked/stimulation made at each stage Outputs and activities that resulted Numbers involved Challenges Implementation Timing for in person? Timing for virtual? Team required to facilitate? Outputs Visual schematic v1 done and added to Wiki page - Complete [Colin] Further iterate after collaboration call (Friday) Infographic Once outline completed, add some design to create a produced output Video Storyboard started [Pawel] Once outline completed, then shoot and voiceover (Could use animation or maybe moving counters on a table to illustrate) Workbook?? Could produce a workbook, once outline is done in wiki Hopefully food for thought. (edited)

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Nazanin Jenkin 6:18 PM Hi folks - thanks for getting this conversation started @Colin Pinks and @Paweł Nowak (Nowy) . Very useful. Let's talk more on zoom today and explore these ideas further. If you haven't yet, it would be useful to listen to Dave's sessions from last week - lots on timing and 'role' names/using birds as archetypes in those. I have to do some brushing up on legend stories, but my early take is that the archetype reflects the expected/anticipated behaviour and the environment set-up/process supports that (makes it easier for them to do what you want). I'd like to use a good portion of our first gathering together to explore the idea of 'complex' facilitation and in particular the role of the facilitator. I think this would be very valuable for setting expectations both from a delivery perspective and participant perspective. At some point, I'd also be interested to explore potential variations in countries where our own indigenous legends and cultures provide possible archetypes, which would probably be more relevant in the context and better understood/easier to work with in that context. And, a word of warning...it will be 8pm NZ time when we talk and I, along with many across the country, have pretty much been awake since 3am following a 7.1 earthquake on the east coast!!!! Everyone ok, but a jolly good shake.

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 8:34 PM replied to a thread: I have created a visual of the Triopticon facilitation, as a starting point. More diagrammatical than narrative. However, this might be a start for confirming understanding, before making anything more design led.… @Nazanin Jenkin Building on your ‘guide’ observation... I’ve just watched Triopticon 1 (as I was in session 2) and noted the chat around “What do we call the facilitator?” near the end. This in some ways plays into the ‘Guide’ naming (rather by chance) as it feels like it is about setting the correct conditions and guiding people through the structure of the process for the dialogues, without managing the conversation, as is often the case with certain flavours of facilitation. Though it sounds like Dave has acted as an Eagle ‘stimulator’ in the past, to catalyse the inter Eagle interaction and as overall event host. From memory, this felt like his role in the virtual retreat I attended last October on semiotics. So, working out the role def without Dave will be an interesting exploration in the building and definition we can do.

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Nazanin Jenkin 9:49 PM These might help us with the discussion...https://cynefin.io/index.php/Complex_facilitation and http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/what-i-know-about-complex-facilitation/ Chris CorriganChris Corrigan What I know about “complex facilitation” In this blog post, I’m going to lift the lid on the core of my facilitation practice. I specialize in complex facilitation for addressing complex issues and this requires a special approach t… Oct 25th, 2019 (252 kB) http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/held.jpeg

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 10:50 AM I have started the question list, as suggested this morning. This can then prompt answers, which can be used to build the wiki and other artefacts that will help us build. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H9r61KcOo4xAMtQZtQdQrLYQRavitqCGY88GXrr7_s8/edit?usp=sharing G Suite Document Triopticon - Questions Document from Google DriveClick to open in Google Drive

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Paweł Nowak (Nowy) 7:41 AM Hello, what do you think about running some interviews or surveys among people who participated in Triopticon workshop in any role? I think that we could discover some interesting insights:) (edited)

Mike Haber 6:44 PM I made a load a drawings reviewing this - in thread. (edited)

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Nazanin Jenkin 3:06 AM found this simple animation for open space and wondering if anyone here has the skills to move @Colin Pinks and @Mike Haber’s drawings into something like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCPZ5iQLlnA YouTubeYouTube | Inspect & Adapt Ltd How to Facilitate an Open Space Session

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Colin Pinks:speech_balloon: 10:15 PM Just had a thought that we could try and do a micro triopticin tomorrow morning in the meeting just to run through the interactions. I’ve suggested to Davina to speak as eagle 1, so we can run through one rotation. We’ll see who turns up and make it up from there.

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Nazanin Jenkin 1:13 AM This was actually @kitt's suggestion last week and after some discussion we agreed to use today's session to review the questions on the google page and populate the wiki from that. Maybe you could organise this for another time?

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Situational Assessment

Why use Constraint Mapping? It is an alternative to situational assessment (which is based on how people have already decided to act).</quote>
There's a key point here... but in writing things up, we really need to find another way of making that point.
I don't doubt that the point was being made that way in good faith, based on taking situational assessment in that way... but I would contend that in the wider world, situation assessment is something way bigger than that suggests.
First thing I opened from page one of a Google search:

A situational assessment is a systematic process to gather, analyze, synthesize and communicate data to inform planning decisions. Information from a situational assessment can be used to inform the goals, objectives, target audiences and activities of a health promotion strategy

Second thing I opened talked of gathering background information to identify the issue & extent of it... and then we have @Sonja Blignaut’s recent piece... which uses the phrase, quite reasonably, to refer to a process which would encompass constraint mapping:
Sonja's initial Situational Assessment encompasses traditional constraints:

Mapping the intention that constraints or frames: the vector for instincts around long term direction of travel;

Extrinsic Functional Limits: constraints that we have little control over - laws, topography, enduring taboos;

Coherence/Identity: the messy coherence of constraints reflecting our priorities & values - reflecting how we are prepared to "show up" with/among others;

Scope of Agency / Degrees of Freedom: perhaps best conceived as pressures towards entrained patterns of behaviour;

Her Situational Assesment then considers constraints we can more actively manipulate:

Coordination within the system: rhythms and cadences plus heuristics to frame autonomy & adaptation;

Maintaining requisite diversity of perspective (the heterogeneity needed to catalyse creativity);

Requisite inefficiency or slack: the enabling constraint of an organisation able to slow down when it must;

Connectivity & entanglement: trust and knowledge flows, especially through informal social networks;

Flows of tangible resources (cash, information) but also intangible flows of value, authority, energy, ideas;

Curiosity and the ability to see and make use of affordances (we might say wayfinding ability, or skills-base);

Distributing of decision-making and authority to enable responsiveness;

As Sonja says:

Many of these are again different types of constraints e.g. some constraints connect people or things to each other e.g. networks are made up of constraints that connect. Flow is enabled (or blocked) by constraints; think about water that can be channelled or dammed. Slack is created by constraints that govern how we work. Creativity and curiosity can be catalysed by enabling constraints — think for example of the creativity that comes from a limited number of ingredients in a MasterChef Mystery Box or a half-empty fridge.

That's all before the consideration of feedback mechanisms: further forms of constraint which are perhaps paramount in maintaining messy coherence.
Suggestion: we accept the contrast an approach using constraint mapping with an approach that's more like "winging it"... but on the basis of Sonja's work, we put "situational assessment" into the Wiki as an assembly linked to maintaining messy coherence and drawing upon methods such as constraint mapping.
https://sonjablignaut.medium.com/enabling-coherent-explore-spaces-b9a3ac99d1c5
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Workshop based (or analytic team) situational assessment (which was the context) cannot avoid the issue of action focus in the complex domain. Creating better wording around that is fine. The goal is to create the supporting material for what is listed in the Field Guide, with some variation possible. I’m happy to look at a sprint on the wider issues of situational assessment in the context of strategy as both a theory piece and as an assembly or group of assemblies, but not now as its a distraction. Ditto affordances & flow.

Sonja Response:

I think the other thing that may we confusing the issue here is that I don’t use the same typology as Dave. What I describe in that post builds on Dave’s typology in some ways, but also includes other typologies and descriptions. I started working on this several years ago before Dave refined his typology. E.g. I found it useful how constraints are described as Permitting, Inhibiting & Inviting - which is not how Dave’s describes it in the CE typology. It may be useful at some stage to compare the two but seeing as this process is meant to codifying the official CE mapping process, doing that here is probably not appropriate.

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